October 23, 2007

दशैंको शुभकामना कस्ता कस्ता

- चना
दशै लगभग सकियो, तर फाट्टफुट्ट शुभकामना आउदै छ । दिक्क लागेर हो कि ब्यस्त भएर हो, यो वर्ष इमेलबाट शुभकामना पठाउने काम बहिष्कार पो गरिएछ । धेरैले शायद यो बर्ष चनाले शुभकामना इमेल पठाएन भनेर हेक्का राख्ने फुर्सदै पाएन होलान । तर थोरैले ठाने होलान दौतरीमा लेख्न थालेदेखुन चनाको भावै बढ्या छ, दशैमा ग्रीट नि गर्दैन साले । दशैको शुभकामना पठाउनु पर्छ भन्ने नसोचेको त हैन, तर यताउता फत्र्याकफुत्रुक गर्दा गर्दै अष्टमि लागीसकेछ, त्यसपछि त के शुभकामना दिनु जस्तो लाग्यो । उसैपनि सप्तमि पछि लगभग सबै अफिस बिदा हुन्छ नेपालमा । बिदेशतिर पनि मिलुञ्जेल मिला'र दशै मनाउने चलन शुरु भा'छ । दशैको चटारो सक्केपछि भएभरका इमेल खोलेर हेर्दा पो देखें - निकै धेरै शुभकामनाहरु चाङ लागीराखेका । २० बर्ष पहिला छुट्टिएका लंगुटिया यार देखिन अस्ति भर्खर चुनावताका बाँडिएका इमेलमा देखेका नामहरु समेत happy vijaya dashami भन्न लाइन कसेर बसेका थिए ।

शुभकामना थरी थरीका थिए, अल्छि लाग्दो ३ शब्द देखुन लिएर हप्तौ लगा'र आफैले बनाको पोष्टकार्ड, पारीवारीक फोटो देखुन लिएर भगवानका तस्वीर समेत, थरी थरीका इ‍-ग्रीटिङ कार्ड देखुन लिएर कवितात्मक संदेश, संस्कृतभाषाको श्लोक देखुन लिएर राजनीतिक उपदेश समेत अनेक थिए । तर निकै थोरै संदेशमा प्रत्यक्ष वादविवाद देखे मैले । नेपालबाट इञ्जिनियर बनेकाहरुको मेलिङ लिस्टमा भने दशैको शुभकामना नेताहरुको सदबुद्धी पलाओस भन्ने आशयको थियो । त्यस उपदेशले केहि चरण वादविवाद समेत गरायो, जुन मलाइ चाखलाग्दो लाग्यो । आज मैले त्यहि वादविवाद उठाएर यहाँ ल्याएँ । केहि ब्यक्तिगत प्रसंग र शब्द चयनमा सामान्य काटकुट गरेर प्रस्तूत गरेको छु । पढेर प्रतिक्रिया लेख्न नभुल्नुहोला है ।

b gurung (2050) wrote:

Dear Alumni,
Best Wishes on the auspicious occassion of Happy Vijaya Dashami - 2064.
May this festival may give "Sadbuddhi" to all political leaders and bring lasting peace in the country.
Warm Regards, > B Gurung> General Secretary, IOEAA

T Lamsal (2051) wrote:

Well said, That's what our Leaders need. Happy Vijaya Dashami to you and all Alumni of IOE.

RC Poudel (2052) wrote:

Who is leader? My concern is on use of specific term..What exactly the "leader" mean on that... I have seen so many leaders or would be leaders of Nepal with in this group too.I prefer, at least engineer group like us, not use such a abstract term in future ( use only well defined term or define on the statement).Any comment, feel free to argue on my email not in group email. Happy Dashain 2064!

T Lamsal (2051) wrote:

It was referred for the political leaders. Isn’t it clear on the text? I thought, it was.
Because...having signed the agreement last year for Constitutional Assembly election, where are we now? Why can n’t the leaders agree on an election even after a year long discussion. What they really want?

They are not willing to go beyond the party politics. Even after becoming unsuccessful on calling the election on stipulated date, no one seems to be willing to offer a resignation from the government. Therefore, it was right to say that the political leaders need ‘Sadbuddhi’. And I hope Durga Bhawani will provide them this Dashain.

If anyone from us (engineers) wants to become a Political Leader, as I gather from my memory, Some of us were among them - Lets Go ahead, and rest of us will stand behind in support. We engineers don’t need ‘Sadbuddhi’ as I believe we already have much of it. It’s only the matter of skill to utilise it, for the great cause of national interest.

b gurung (2050) wrote:

I think this is not a right moment to have more disputes among us. I suppose my words and sentence are very clear to everybody and are not abstract.

We do not need be afraid with the words, like 'leaders'. We know a nepali's sentiments and worries for very serious and dangerous condition of Nepal. Further, we nepalese engineers are not free from the effect of any political decisions, actions & turmoils in the country. We are not landed here from 'Mangal Graha' or any other developed countries. We belongs to, and many of us are living & working in this politically unstable country. We should never think that we are beyond the common citizen or we will not be affected.

The term 'Sadbuddhi' is meant to reflect mutual cooperations and understandings among leaders of the various political parties for the fair election of "CA" as early as possible and then move forward for betterment of the country. Of course, we engineers and engineering societies at large will get the chunk of advantage first once our country comes in track of piece and progress. I wish 'Durga Mata' bless this for us!

t limbu (2051) wrote:

Here we go again...Leaders?
Whether we have something to do with CA or CA has something to do with us, either time will tell or CA will tell us.we know already or for that matter, we better know it now , before it is too late.However when it comes to leaders, our friends focussed explicitly on political leaders, very important, as usual. For me, however, leaders means every type of leaders, be it leaders of engineers, coolies, workers, or whatever professional gropups.

There are already sufficient examples which shows that the leaders of these professional groups can influence the political leaders negatively or positively.Therefore, sadhbuddhi goes for all not just for political leaders.

And when we discuss we rather discuss in an open forum like this that avails everybody rather than discuss in a requested so called private "kothe" mail.
Durga mata does nothing. Either we do it or we dont't do it.
Sadhbuddhi not only for political leaders but for every type of leaders.

पढेर प्रतिक्रिया लेख्न नभुल्नुहोला है । (केहि प्रतिक्रिया नभए - मैले पनि पढें - मात्रै भए नि लेख्नुहोला है त बन्धुहरु ।)


Anonymous said...

सब भन्दा पढ्ने त म पो भए जस्तो छ। मलाइ नी आएको थियो त्यही इन्नजियरको शुभकामना इमेल। कताबाट भेट्टाएछन कुन्नी ? ल है त त्यसमा थपम त्यही ग्रुपको इमेल।
May Durga Mata
bless you and your family with lots of
Happiness and Prosperity.

Er. ...Shah
Mrs. ... Shah & Family

fireashes said...

hoina ye yahoo group ko email ta public hoinan ni cha ni hoina

Tapailai yo group ko email padhnai man lagcha bhane http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ioe_alumni/
janus ani padhnus... but to read the email you need to be a member of that group.

Well even the emails are semi public(open to all the members of the group) but it is not public to all...

I think everybody should respect the privacy...

Chanaa said...

"I think everybody should respect the privacy..."

With due respect to individuals' privacy, all personal addresses and exchange of personal details are omitted.

यो blog मा shuvakamana मा प्रयोग भएको शब्दहरु वरीपरी घुमेको वादविवाद मात्रै राखेको हुनाले privacy माथि अतिक्रमण गरेजस्तो लाग्दैन ।

आश्मा said...


Anonymous said...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ioe_alumni/ मा त्यती धेरै ब्यक्तीगत इमेल त पक्कै पनि आदान प्रदान हुदैन होला। कस्तो रहेछ, ग्रुप भन्दा बाहीरका मान्छेले जानकारी पाए, राम्रै हो नि ग्रुपको लागी होइन र ? अनि ioe का alumni ले पनि जानकारी भयो याहु ग्रुप छ भनेर, यसलाइ यसरी हेरे हुदैन र? म पढ्दा त alumni ब्यापक राजनितिक करण भएको थियो अहिले कस्तो छ कुन्नी।

rahulvai said...

मलाई त त्यस्तो शुभकामना केही आएन। शब्दका कामना भन्दा ठुलो भावनाको कामना हो। चनादाई अनि उहाँका परिवार का साथै साझा चौतारीका केही स्थापित ब्यकित्वहरु संग केही पल बिताउनुमा नै मेरा कामनाहरु पूरा भएको मानेको छु। यस मानेमा चनादाई प्रति सधैं आभारी हुने नै छु।

Anonymous said...

प्रतिक्रिया खासै आएन, प्रतिक्रिया लेख्नोस है भनेर लेख्यो भने प्रतिक्रिया लेख्न मन लाग्दालाग्दै प्रतिक्रिया लेख्न मन लाग्दैन रे, कुरो साँचो हो जस्तो लाओ । यस्सो तलतिर हिटकाउण्ट हेर्दा छक्कै परें म । हिजो ८०० को हाराहारीतिर देखाइरा\'को काउण्टरले आज २३०० भन्दा बढी देखाउन भ्याएछ । एकै दिनमा १५०० जम्प ? ५०, ६०, १०० जति ठिकै होला जस्तो लाग्याथ्यो १५०० भन्या त ब्यापकै भओ नि हैन ? कि त्यसले गतिलो काम त गरिरा\' हो ?

Anonymous said...

५०, ६०, १०० जति बढ्या भे ठिकै होला भन्न खोजेको, बढ्या भे छुटेछ । कमेण्टमा थपथाप घटघाट गर्न मिल्दैन ?

Anonymous said...

Hello Channa sathi,
Copy-paste garnu bhanda pani copy-edit gari knai chij publish garnu ghambhir aaparadh ho. Hoina ta sathiharu?

nepalean said...

हिजो एक छिन भिड बडेको पक्कै हो। बिहानैबाट आउने जाने भएको थियो। चनाको याहू ग्रुपको शुभकामनाले गर्दा हो कि, याहू बाट पनि थुप्रै आएका थिए दौतारीमा।
कपि पेस्ट,इडिट आदीको कुरा, बिना परिचय कुनै समुहको गफमा प्रतीक्रिया दिनु अपराध जस्तो लाग्दैन। यसले त इन्जिनियर साथीहरु बिच कस्तो शुभकामना आदान प्रदान हुदैछ भने देखाउछ जस्तो लाग्छ मेरो बिचारमा।

Anonymous said...

Suman जि,
तपाइले ghambhir aaparadh ho भन्दिनु भो, होला त नि मानिचु के रे । बरु, नहुने चुनावको नाममा देशको करोडौ रकम फोक्कटमा खर्च गराउने नेताहरु, भाऊ बढेपनि दु:खै नबढेपनि दु:खै भोग्न बाध्य बनाउने राज्यब्यबस्थापकहरु, हत्केलामा ज्यान र ललाटमा कात्रो बाँधेर हिड्न पर्दा पनि मध्यदिनमै मस्तनीदमा पर्ने सुरक्षाकर्मीहरुका कार्यकलापचाहि ghambhir aaparadh ho भन्नुपर्ने विषयमा पर्दैन क्यार, दशै बेलाको शुभकामनामा भनिएको सद् बुद्धि कसलाइ चाहिया हो कुन्नि?

Anonymous said...

Ho Suman sathi,
Publish garnu agadi lekhne (original writer) ko sahamati line parampara basauna sake ramro hunthyo kyara!

Anonymous said...

I read twice after watching this heated discussion. Honestly, I didnt find any objectionable issues. The only thing I found is how our engineers think. This discussion has gone outside the group of engineers, is this the issue? Put some light please.

Mukunda Hatuwal said...

त्यसो भए मेरो पनि बिजया दशमी२०६७ को हा्र्दिक मंगलमय शुभ कामना छ ल त ।।।।।

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